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Overview |
SUNY-ESF | Penn | ||
| Location | Syracuse, NY | Philadelphia, PA | ||
| Setting | Midsize City | Large City | ||
| Enrollment | 2,737 | 28,711 | ||
| Type | Public 4 Year | Private 4 Year | ||
| National Ranking | #255 | #23 | ||
| Religious Affiliation | - | - | - | - |
| Status | Non-profit | Non-profit | ||
| Website | esf.edu | upenn.edu | ||
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Costs |
SUNY-ESF | Penn | ||
| Tuition (In State) | $7,070 | $58,620 | ||
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| Tuition (Out of State) | $18,900 | $58,620 | ||
| Room & Board | $17,780 | $18,496 | ||
| Avg Net Price | $19,644 | $26,017 | ||
| Avg Grant Aid | $8,675 | $59,721 | ||
| % Receiving Grant Aid | 94% | 48% |
Admission |
SUNY-ESF | Penn | ||
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| Admission Chances | Calculate | Calculate | ||
| Applied | 3,541 | 59,465 | ||
| Admitted | 2,937 | 3,489 | ||
| Acceptance Rate | 82.9% | 5.9% | ||
| Enrolled % | 13.6% | 69.2% | ||
| Avg High School GPA | 3.7 | 3.95 | ||
| Typical High School Grades | A- | A- | ||
| Admissions Standards | Difficult | Elite | ||
| Applicant Competition | Extreme | |||
| ACT Range | 24/30 | 34/35 | ||
| SAT Range | 1130/1300 | 1500/1570 | ||
| Submit Test Scores | Not considered for admission, even if submitted (Test Blind) | Not required for admission, but considered if submitted (Test Optional) | ||
| Application Deadline | Feb 1, 2025 | Jan 5, 2025 |
Academics |
SUNY-ESF | Penn | ||
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| Student to Faculty Ratio | 14:1 | 8:1 | ||
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Outcomes |
SUNY-ESF | Penn | ||
| Graduation Rate | 66% | 96% | ||
| Median Earnings (After 10 years) | $46,200 | $123,600 | ||
| Making Student Loan Payments | 78% | 84% | ||
| Median Student Loan Debt | $19,750 | $20,633 | ||
| Median Loan Payment | $204 | $213 |
Diversity |
SUNY-ESF | Penn | ||
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| % Men | 6% | 26% | ||
| % Women | 9% | 33% | ||
| Racial Diversity | Very Low | Very High | ||
| HBCU | No | No | ||
| % White | 82% | 45% | ||
| % Black | 1% | 7% | ||
| % Hispanic | 5% | 10% | ||
| % Native American | 0% | 0% | ||
| % Pacific Islander | 0% | 0% | ||
| % Two or More Races | 2% | 4% | ||
| % International | 2% | 11% | ||
| % Unknown Race | 4% | 3% |
Students |
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| % In-State | 75% | 14% | ||
| % Out-of-State | 25% | 69% | ||
Campus |
SUNY-ESF | Penn | ||
| Campus Housing | Yes | Yes | ||
| Freshman Dorm Required | No | Yes | ||
| Meal Plan | Yes | Yes | ||
| Weekend/Evening Classes | No | Yes | ||
| Daycare Facility | No | Yes | ||
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Comparable Facts
- University of Pennsylvania is larger than than SUNY-ESF based on total student enrollment (28,711 students vs. 2,737 students)
SUNY-ESF vs. Penn Cost Comparison
Which college is more expensive, SUNY-ESF or Penn?
- University of Pennsylvania is 729.1% more expensive to attend than SUNY-ESF for in-state tuition ($58,620.00 vs. $7,070.00)
- Out of state tuition is 210.2% higher at Penn than SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry ($58,620.00 vs. $18,900.00)
- The typical actual cost that students pay to attend (average net price) is less at SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry than Penn ($19,644 vs. $26,017)
- Living costs (room and board or off-campus housing budget) at SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry are 4% lower than costs at University of Pennsylvania ($17,780 vs. $18,496)
- More students receive financial grant aid at SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry than University of Pennsylvania (94% vs. 48%)
- The average total grant financial aid received by University of Pennsylvania students is 588.4% larger than aid received SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry ($59,721 vs. $8,675)
SUNY-ESF vs. Penn Admissions Difficulty Comparison
Which college is harder to get into, SUNY-ESF or Penn? Average SAT and ACT scores plus acceptance rates offer good insight into the difficulty of admission between Penn or SUNY-ESF .
- The average SAT score at University of Pennsylvania (1457) is 242 points higher than at SUNY-ESF (1215)
- Incoming Penn students have a 6 point higher average ACT score (33) than students at SUNY-ESF (27)
- Accepted freshman Penn students have a 0.25 point higher average high school GPA (3.95) than students at SUNY-ESF (3.7)
- SUNY-ESF has a higher acceptance rate (82.9%) than Penn (5.9%)
SUNY-ESF vs. Penn Graduation Outcomes Comparison
Which is better, SUNY-ESF or Penn? Graduation rate, salary and amount of student loan debt are indicators of a college which offers better outcomes for its graduates. Compare the following outcomes facts between Penn and SUNY-ESF.
- The graduation rate at Penn is higher than SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry (96% vs. 66%)
- Graduates from University of Pennsylvania earn on average $77,400 more per year than SUNY-ESF graduates after ten years. ($123,600 vs. $46,200)
- SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry students graduate with a $883 lower median federal student loan debt than Penn graduates. ($19,750 vs. $20,633)
- SUNY-ESF graduates are paying $9 less per month on federal student loans than Penn graduates. ($204 vs. $213)
- More Penn graduates are actively paying back their federal student loan debt than former SUNY-ESF students, three years after graduation. (84% vs. 78%)
Sources: U.S. Department of Education https://nces.ed.gov IPEDS and College Scorecard https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/