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Overview |
St John's | SUNY-ESF | ||
| Location | Queens, NY | Syracuse, NY | ||
| Setting | Large City | Midsize City | ||
| Enrollment | 19,663 | 1,976 | ||
| Type | Private 4 Year | Public 4 Year | ||
| National Ranking | #398 | #206 | ||
| Religious Affiliation | Roman Catholic | - | - | - |
| Status | Non-profit | Non-profit | ||
| Website | stjohns.edu | esf.edu | ||
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Costs |
St John's | SUNY-ESF | ||
| Tuition (In State) | $46,230 | $7,070 | ||
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| Tuition (Out of State) | $46,230 | $18,720 | ||
| Room & Board | $18,790 | $17,300 | ||
| Avg Net Price | $26,052 | $20,928 | ||
| Avg Grant Aid | $32,626 | $8,713 | ||
| % Receiving Grant Aid | 100% | 89% |
Admission |
St John's | SUNY-ESF | ||
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| Admission Chances | Calculate | Calculate | ||
| Applied | 24,607 | 2,466 | ||
| Admitted | 20,834 | 1,714 | ||
| Acceptance Rate | 84.7% | 69.5% | ||
| Enrolled % | 13.9% | 20.8% | ||
| Avg High School GPA | 3.5 | 3.7 | ||
| Typical High School Grades | B+ | A- | ||
| Admissions Standards | Challenging | Difficult | ||
| Applicant Competition | Low | |||
| ACT Range | 24/29 | 24/30 | ||
| SAT Range | 1110/1310 | 1130/1300 | ||
| Submit Test Scores | Not required for admission, but considered if submitted (Test Optional) | Not considered for admission, even if submitted (Test Blind) | ||
| Application Deadline | Feb 1, 2025 |
Academics |
St John's | SUNY-ESF | ||
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| Student to Faculty Ratio | 16:1 | 13:1 | ||
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Outcomes |
St John's | SUNY-ESF | ||
| Graduation Rate | 58% | 66% | ||
| Median Earnings (After 10 years) | $61,400 | $46,200 | ||
| Making Student Loan Payments | 65% | 78% | ||
| Median Student Loan Debt | $26,000 | $19,750 | ||
| Median Loan Payment | $268 | $204 |
Diversity |
St John's | SUNY-ESF | ||
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| % Men | 43% | 49% | ||
| % Women | 57% | 51% | ||
| Racial Diversity | Very High | Very Low | ||
| HBCU | No | No | ||
| % White | 34% | 82% | ||
| % Black | 19% | 1% | ||
| % Hispanic | 12% | 5% | ||
| % Native American | 0% | 0% | ||
| % Pacific Islander | 0% | 0% | ||
| % Two or More Races | 5% | 2% | ||
| % International | 5% | 2% | ||
| % Unknown Race | 7% | 4% |
Students |
St John's | SUNY-ESF | ||
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| % In-State | 80% | 76% | ||
| % Out-of-State | 18% | 23% | ||
Campus |
St John's | SUNY-ESF | ||
| Campus Housing | Yes | Yes | ||
| Freshman Dorm Required | No | No | ||
| Meal Plan | Yes | Yes | ||
| Weekend/Evening Classes | Yes | No | ||
| Daycare Facility | No | No | ||
| Learn More | Details | Details |
Comparable Facts
- St John's University New York is larger than than SUNY-ESF based on total student enrollment (19,663 students vs. 1,976 students)
St John's vs. SUNY-ESF Cost Comparison
Which college is more expensive, St John's or SUNY-ESF?
- St John's University New York is 553.9% more expensive to attend than SUNY-ESF for in-state tuition ($46,230.00 vs. $7,070.00)
- Out of state tuition is 147% higher at St John's than SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry ($46,230.00 vs. $18,720.00)
- The typical actual cost that students pay to attend (average net price) is less at SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry than St John's ($20,928 vs. $26,052)
- Living costs (room and board or off-campus housing budget) at SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry are 8.6% lower than costs at St John's University New York ($17,300 vs. $18,790)
- More students receive financial grant aid at St John's University New York than SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry (100% vs. 89%)
- The average total grant financial aid received by St John's University New York students is 274.5% larger than aid received SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry ($32,626 vs. $8,713)
St John's vs. SUNY-ESF Admissions Difficulty Comparison
Which college is harder to get into, St John's or SUNY-ESF? Average SAT and ACT scores plus acceptance rates offer good insight into the difficulty of admission between SUNY-ESF or St John's .
- The average SAT score at SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry (1215) is 135 points higher than at St John's (1080)
- Incoming SUNY-ESF students have a 2 point higher average ACT score (27) than students at St John's (25)
- Accepted freshman SUNY-ESF students have a 0.2 point higher average high school GPA (3.7) than students at St John's (3.5)
- St John's has a higher acceptance rate (84.7%) than SUNY-ESF (69.5%)
St John's vs. SUNY-ESF Graduation Outcomes Comparison
Which is better, St John's or SUNY-ESF? Graduation rate, salary and amount of student loan debt are indicators of a college which offers better outcomes for its graduates. Compare the following outcomes facts between SUNY-ESF and St John's.
- The graduation rate at SUNY-ESF is higher than St John's University New York (66% vs. 58%)
- Graduates from St John's University New York earn on average $15,200 more per year than SUNY-ESF graduates after ten years. ($61,400 vs. $46,200)
- SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry students graduate with a $6,250 lower median federal student loan debt than St John's graduates. ($19,750 vs. $26,000)
- SUNY-ESF graduates are paying $64 less per month on federal student loans than St John's graduates. ($204 vs. $268)
- More SUNY-ESF graduates are actively paying back their federal student loan debt than former St John's students, three years after graduation. (78% vs. 65%)
Sources: U.S. Department of Education https://nces.ed.gov IPEDS and College Scorecard https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/